Comments on: CDbExpression http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/2009/cdbexpression/ On PHP and things related Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:57:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jonah http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/2009/cdbexpression/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Jonah Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:42:04 +0000 http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/?p=159#comment-196 @Wei Thanks for the clarification @Konstantin Mirin Really? That's interesting. If you investigate it further I would be interested in knowing the cause. @Garbago Olso I see your point, but don't forget that Yii does *not* force you to actually use Active Record. You may instead write direct SQL as you would without a framework. (see http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/database.dao) So I would not use this "feature" against it. It is only optional that you use Active Record. I do confess that Yii's Active Record is not as extensive as CakePHP's in that it is not as flexible, but all in all, I would never go back to Cake (and besides, because Cake's active record was so extensive, it was also slow). It is a learning curve but once you get around it I believe you will be developing faster than ever. @Wei
Thanks for the clarification

@Konstantin Mirin
Really? That’s interesting. If you investigate it further I would be interested in knowing the cause.

@Garbago Olso
I see your point, but don’t forget that Yii does *not* force you to actually use Active Record. You may instead write direct SQL as you would without a framework. (see http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/database.dao)

So I would not use this “feature” against it. It is only optional that you use Active Record. I do confess that Yii’s Active Record is not as extensive as CakePHP’s in that it is not as flexible, but all in all, I would never go back to Cake (and besides, because Cake’s active record was so extensive, it was also slow).

It is a learning curve but once you get around it I believe you will be developing faster than ever.

]]> By: Garbago Olso http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/2009/cdbexpression/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Garbago Olso Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:30:15 +0000 http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/?p=159#comment-195 well, that is a nice example of what frameworks do with your development process: instead of concentrating on the main work, you are trying to find the trick how to do things you already know with the framework. especially with SQL there is so much more than a simple select * from bla - so all your sql knowledge is now worth nothing because the framework needs some special trick to to it. THAT is the moment when you find that the framework kills your worktime. well, that is a nice example of what frameworks do with your development process: instead of concentrating on the main work, you are trying to find the trick how to do things you already know with the framework. especially with SQL there is so much more than a simple select * from bla – so all your sql knowledge is now worth nothing because the framework needs some special trick to to it. THAT is the moment when you find that the framework kills your worktime.

]]> By: Konstantin Mirin http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/2009/cdbexpression/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Konstantin Mirin Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:08:43 +0000 http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/?p=159#comment-178 Actually, this thing doesn't work with all MySQL+PHP configurations. I experienced the problems with such approach and had to use simply date('Y-m-d H:i:s'). I didn't have time to investigate the issue, so it's just a quick note - be attentive :) More pitfalls&tips when changing environment for Yii in my blog (this is not advertisement:)) Actually, this thing doesn’t work with all MySQL+PHP configurations. I experienced the problems with such approach and had to use simply date(‘Y-m-d H:i:s’). I didn’t have time to investigate the issue, so it’s just a quick note – be attentive :)
More pitfalls&tips when changing environment for Yii in my blog (this is not advertisement:))

]]> By: Wei http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/2009/cdbexpression/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Wei Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:23:56 +0000 http://php-thoughts.cubedwater.com/?p=159#comment-161 To be more precise, prepared statements are used to bind the values. CDbExpression allows for arbitrary SQL fragments, therefore, extreme care must be taken when the fragment is generated from variable values such as user inputs. Avoid arbitrary SQL if possible. To be more precise, prepared statements are used to bind the values. CDbExpression allows for arbitrary SQL fragments, therefore, extreme care must be taken when the fragment is generated from variable values such as user inputs. Avoid arbitrary SQL if possible.

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